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Here's the situation. It's tomorrow. Atheism wins its case through compelling evidence. Churches concede the non-existence of God, and that they've been wasting everybody's time all along. The word goes out - not "God is dead," but "We've been making it up all along, or at worst going along with the charade out of peer pressure. God is no more real than unicorns, Mork from Ork or Superman."

Now, who determines what you do with your existence knowing that when it's over, there's no Heaven waiting for you, no Hell, and not even an endless cycle of reincarnation so you can correct where you've fucked up in this life, meaning that you have to correct your screwups now, while you still live?

What if you come to realise, inside yourself, that nobody Up There is watching - that, in fact, there is no Up There in the first place? What do you do?

Where, and in what endeavour, would you personally now find solace and meaning in your life?

Now bear in mind that some of us are already living this situation and accept the above premises as truth based on all the evidence all around us. So this sort of realisation really wouldn't turn my life, or the lives of some of us on my f'list, upside down at all.

I personally really do not believe in the afterlife as described by Mother Church, or in the Christian God. I was born here, on Spaceship Earth, and like every other human being with few exceptions I am never going to visit any other planet but this tiny blue ball of rock and gas and water outside of my imagination, much to my great chagrin.

But if it turned out that this above view, this viewpoint which may be heretical, anathema to you, not only receives official acknowledgment by the authorities - but reaches within you and grabs you by the heart and soul, makes you realise its truth for yourself despite your personal wish that It Ain't So?

Where would you find the meaning in your lives then?

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Date: 2008-08-21 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinhazel.livejournal.com
I believe that the only person one can count on is ones self therefore: The only true god is ones ego.

Through...

Date: 2008-08-21 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-heart9.livejournal.com
...my writing and the writing of others. Through art and music. Through Nature. Through animals. Through anything non-human.

Through Rimble.

Re: Through...

Date: 2008-08-21 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-heart9.livejournal.com
I don't need science to prove a damned thing to me about my self worth through life. Or the Presence. Science is just another venue to speak at the Hearth, just as literature, history, music, athletics. So it seems ridiculous to me to worry about science disproving the existence of a creative force.

Science

Date: 2008-08-21 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiat-knox.livejournal.com
Science is really just about looking around at the world, and wondering at all its beauty and marvels in and of themselves.

And sometimes, science is about finding out who we are in the universe. And what we are is very, very small.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-08-21 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandchigger.livejournal.com
Where do I find meaning in my life? Through living. Through doing what I can to make the most people happy. Through enjoying myself and those around me. The meaning of life is to live it.

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Date: 2008-08-21 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epocalypse.livejournal.com
If God did not exist we'd have to invent him. What's that? We already did? There you go then, that's fine. Absolute logical proof that God exists. LOL

(no subject)

Date: 2008-08-21 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] epocalypse.livejournal.com
Oh and in answer to your question. Through my Children.

(no subject)

Date: 2008-08-22 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyarbitrary.livejournal.com
*shrug* Same place, doing the same things. The thing is, I feel that one should be Christian not because God is perfect and wonderful while you suck so you should do everything he says. I think you should do it because/if you agree with him. And if you agree, then you think it's right whether there's somebody/thing Up There affirming your opinion or not.

Loving people. Easing their burdens. Creating beauty, appreciating and protecting it. One way or another, it's all we have in this life. Western spiritualism says that regardless of what comes after, you only get one shot at this. So really, I see little difference.

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