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In the season that purports to be the Church's second greatest celebration, the following story is the reason why Christianity is still wrong, people.

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A reminder of why the Church aren't fit to judge on this matter, and never will


The Church lost its right to speak on behalf of God the moment they started doing unto others what the Romans had been doing to them, and turning their own prophet's words on its ear. From the day Saul became St Paul and infected this minor heretical cult of Judaism with a pathological hatred of everything, ultimately giving the Church all of the compassion of Jeffrey Dahmer on a really bad day, it deliberately blinded itself to its own founder's messages of wisdom, peace and understanding.

Now you know why atheism has to prevail. And the profound level of ignorance and spiteful hatred that the cause of reason has to put up with.
Here. Read this bit:-

Meanwhile top Vatican deputies are now studying a change to the mass that would affect the moment when members of the congregation are asked to greet each other with a 'sign of peace.'

Worshippers exchange handshakes, or sometimes a hug or kiss. In 2007, writing about the exchanging of the peace, Pope Benedict called for 'greater restraint in this gesture which can become exaggerated and cause a certain distraction in the assembly before the reception of Communion.'


WTF ... the sign of peace is why they make Mass a communal affair in the first place. Individuals in the community make peace with their neighbours first, bond as a community and then share that community spirit with God. Otherwise all they'd need is to sell those biscuits and a shot of wine out of a vending machine. Once blessed, anyone could take a bite.

Also this:-

Today the Pope also attacked those who underwent sex changes and said: 'It is not man who decides who is a man or woman but God.'

I thought it was your DNA, passing down the genes from your father.

And he used his address to criticize the idea that he is seen by the young as some form of rock star.

He said Christian gatherings such as World Youth Day should not be seen as 'a sort of rock festival modified in an ecclesiastical sense.'

The week-long festival in July culminated in a mass celebrated by Benedict in Sydney attended by some 350,000 people.


Stupid, stupid SOFB. He's even alienating his own fans.
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Pascal's Wager is supposedly a claim laid by some people that, towards the end of his life, Blaise Pascal converted to Christianity, and applied spurious logic thus:

Either God exists or he doesn't. Now you can choose to believe that he exists or that he does not.

Assuming that God exists, and you believe in him, you will go to Heaven when you die. Assuming that God exists and you do not believe in him, you will go to Hell when you die. So by believing in God, you are hedging your bets.

Something like that. This spurious logic does not address the question of what happens if you believe in God and God does not exist; or what if you did not believe in God, and God's non-existence vindicated this position.

Hence my refutation of the argument posited above.

Just follow the logic through. Assertions come first, followed by conditional statements. As a result of the conditions in the statements being proven one way or the other, some of the assertions may be made false or irrelevant.

1. We (human beings) exist.
2. God exists.
3. God does not exist.
4. Humans die.
5. God created us as an act of Divine Will.
6. We came into being through some impersonal agency intrinsic to the universe.
7. The afterlife exists as a place of joy, and it lasts forever.
8. Hell exists as a place of suffering, and it lasts forever.
9. After we die, our conscious beings go to the afterlife and experience joy forever.
10. After we die, our conscious beings go to Hell and suffer forever.
11. After we die, our conscious beings cease and life is extinct. Our bodies decay and the matter of which our bodies are made returns to various geological cycles, until the Sun dies and the Earth itself becomes extinct.
12. God will send your conscious being to the afterlife as an act of Divine Will.
13. God will send your conscious being to Hell as an act of Divine Will.

14. 12 and 13 are mutually exclusive: if 12 is true, then 13 is false. If 13 is true, then 12 is false.
15. Only through believing in 2 without proof, by being grateful to God for the gift of life, and by accepting the Church as your intercessor and accepting the life’s purpose the Church assigns you (namely your obligation to worship and pay the Church money throughout your life), will 12 be true; otherwise, 13 will be true.
16. The Church holds the key to the Divine Will.

17. 2 and 3 are mutually exclusive: if 2 is true, then 3 is false; if 3 is true, then 2 is false.
18. 5 is true if and only if 2 is true.
19. 6 is true if 3 is true.
20. 5 and 6 are mutually exclusive and dependent; and one or the other is true depending upon whether 2 or 3 are true respectively.
21. 7, 8, 9 and 10 are true if and only if 2 is true.
22. 12 through 16 are relevant (and true) if and only if 2 is true.

23. 1 is true whether or not 5 is true or 6 is true.
24. 4 is true whether or not 5 is true or 6 is true.
25. 1 and 4 are true whether or not 2 or 3 are true.
26. 1 and 4 are true whether or not 6 and 11 are true.
27. 11 is true if 3, 4 and 6 are true.
28. If 11 is true, then 2 is irrelevant.
29. If 2 is irrelevant, then 5, 7 through 10 and 12 through 16 are not only false, but irrelevant.

30. Proof of 4 and 11 can be found in any mortuary, cemetery and battlefield.
31. Therefore 2 is false, and all assertions dependent upon 2 are either false or irrelevant.

QED.

Please. Poke holes in my logic. Unlike some religions, my words are up for debate.

ETA: Edited to correct the numbering of the items.

ETA: Finally located that damned book I have been hunting down to confirm the thing. It is, in fact, Pascal's Wager. Now corrected throughout this post.

But the logic still stands, until a better mind than mine can come up with something better. Or at least more interesting.

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